Studio CD promised by Kickstarter
Elmwood Park New Jersey United StatesDear Mr. Ponty, It has come to my attention that Kickstarter will now only be delivering a CD/DVD of the Aspen live show in February, 2015. However, a studio CD was also promised by Kickstarter to the backers, including myself. Please read the Kickstarter Update # 17 below: "There’s been some confusion based on interviews in different publications about what we’re going to be recording and delivering for everyone with this project and we’d like to take a moment to provide a bit more information. "If you want a studio album… you’re going to be happy. "If you want a live album… you’re going to be happy. "If you want BOTH then you’re going to be very very happy. "Because The Anderson Ponty Band will be going into the studio to record a full album’s worth of material. And then we’re also going to record our Aspen show in the form of a live album and DVD. "The music and album rewards will include ALL the music from the studio album and the live album. The DVD will also include additional making of material and other extras. I am deeply troubled by this new development, and am asking you for an explanation. I do not have much money, but I gave your Kickstarter campaign $100.00. That means a very lean Christmas for my family. It is a shame that I won't even receive what was promised by Kickstarter. I would appreciate a response from you. Thank you. Respectfully, Michael WhitfordDec 14, 2014 6:07pm
James M Mazzarelli
Citrus Heights CA United StatesIs there a way to upgrade from just the live CD to the live CD+DVD? I selected the CD and later wanted to include the DVD but kickstarter wouldn't let me change my pledge. Are we going to be able to purchase the DVD separately? Thanks!Dec 13, 2014 7:56pm
project with Jon Anderson
Austin TX United StatesI did not know about Kickstarter and the concept of fans helping to finance projects. I'm sorry that due to that fact , I was unable to contribute as I would have been honored to do so .It is wonderful that an album and DVD are in the works ! How about fans helping to Kickstart tours ? I hope to see you play at One World Theatre here in Austin one day. I thoroughly enjoyed the performance in 2009....a fan for 40 years and running .Dec 13, 2014 6:14pm
Studio Album Confusion
Los Angeles CA USAHaving read your comments below regarding the APB project, I'd suggest you guys revisit your own Kickstarter Update #17, which reads as follows: "There’s been some confusion based on interviews in different publications about what we’re going to be recording and delivering for everyone with this project and we’d like to take a moment to provide a bit more information. If you want a studio album… you’re going to be happy. If you want a live album… you’re going to be happy. If you want BOTH then you’re going to be very very happy. Because The Anderson Ponty Band will be going into the studio to record a full album’s worth of material. And then we’re also going to record our Aspen show in the form of a live album and DVD. The music and album rewards will include ALL the music from the studio album and the live album. The DVD will also include additional making of material and other extras. Sorry that we didn’t make this clearer but we hope everyone will be as excited about this news as we are." Fans who pledged are expecting BOTH a live album AND a studio album because that's what they were promised.Dec 13, 2014 6:44am
After the Storm
Citrus Heights CA
I'm in Northern California where Jean-Luc Ponty has played at different times (e.g., in Carmel and Saratoga.)
All week long we've been warned of a coming weather system that will absolutely wreak havoc. It's said to be the strongest onslaught of wind and rain we've had in 5 years. It'll be especially bad in higher elevations like Lake Tahoe. We've been told to prepare for the worst, from downed power lines and impassable roads to floods everywhere. Sandbags are being handed out to any resident requesting them. It's due to arrive between tomorrow and tonight.
I'm doing something different.
I'm specifically waiting once it's over whether I have electricity or not to hear one JLP tune that has such special meaning to me. It's the very climactic "After the Storm." Every time I hear it, whether the original or live versions, I gain new insight and meanings into it and from it. Musically speaking, it covers a lot of territory in such short time.
"After the Storm" has the power to cure depression and bring so much hope, no matter your troubles. Thank you for such an excellent and uplifting composition!
P.S. I'd love to know what led to the making of this tune. How did it come to be? What's the story behind this favorite track from "Storytelling?"Dec 11, 2014 8:17am
I think most of us who got involved in Kickstarter did so because we were your fans, or Jon Anderson's fans, and felt like you two could make some beautiful music together. The demos are inspiring, and I think it's great that your wonderful world-class instrumental work will finally be paired with vocals, and that Jon's wonderful voice will finally be paired with a world-class band and world class instrumental music behind him again.
So, I hope that this is taken in the spirit it is intended- as being from a fan who thinks the world of both of you as musicians, and of your wonderful backing band.
I am very disappointed to hear that there will not be a studio album as well as a live album. How many albums there would be (1 or 2) and what the nature of them was going to be (live or studio) was a topic that was discussed a lot in the fan community during the fundraising portion of the Kickstarter campaign. Many people were waiting to pledge, or were considering whether or not to withdraw their pledges (Which they were allowed to do up until the close of the fundraising phase, after which credit cards were charged), pending the answer to those questions.
So, the official project on it's official Kickstarter page gave us an official, clear, and definitive answer that we would all get 1 studio album and 1 live album. I understand that it is perhaps not the artists themselves who are responsible for maintaining the page and issuing updates, but because it is the official site, the updates were all understood to be from the band in the sense of being at least representatives of the band (employees, management, public relations people, or the like) and that they were making binding statements approved by the band.
It of concern that we could be officially promised a studio album and a live album, two full albums of material, and then be told four months after our credit cards have been charged that we are only getting half of that.
I hope you can understand why we would find this disconcerting. It is not necessarily that everyone involved would not have funded simply one live album or that everyone would have backed out when they were still allowed to, perhaps they would have found one album to be of sufficient value. But perhaps not. Though I take you at your word that you had no knowledge of this update, it was a promise made on your behalf to secure advanced funding from fans, some on very limited budgets, who will now not get the full product they thought they were helping fund.
In fact, prior to that update, some of the more mathematically inclined fans determined that the project was not on pace to meet it's fundraising goal of $95,000. Kickstarter rules are that if a project doesn't meet it's goal, it gets $0.00 and no one's credit cards are charged at all. So it is very significant that a promise was made in writing to backers and potential backers and now we hear that there are no plans to deliver.
Is there going to be some attempt to "make good" on this promise made on your behalf to the fans who funded this project in part because of this promise? Is there any way to do something for the fans who were led to believe this was part of what they were paying for by your people or Jon's people? The update, as you can see, is really very clear that there were supposed to be 1 live album and 1 studio album, for a total of 2 albums.
Probably, these updates should have been approved by the principals before they went out, but of course the past is already in the past and in-alterable. There is still the opportunity for you and Jon to try to do something for the fans who were promised this and who had faith in you guys to deliver it, though.
Can you at least tell us who was writing these updates and what their relationship to the band was or is?Dec 11, 2014 2:10am
Thanks for the clarification, Jean-Luc. I'm afraid it's rather disappointing news, as Update #17 was presented as a clarification that led all those contributing to believe that they were getting both a studio album and a live album. I suspect there will be some strong negative reaction from fans.
That being said, I am very much looking forward to the final project. Many thanks for years of wonderful music.
Peace.Dec 11, 2014 1:20am
Hi MaxZ......thank you for your message! Jon and I have always planned to release 1 live album + DVD from same concert. You are the second person asking whether we'll release 1 or 2 albums, so I checked Kickstarter and see that someone indeed wrote a text announcing studio album plus live album, however all pledges are correct 1 CD + DVD, so this is weird.....perhaps someone in our management or in the chain between them and Kickstarter heard Jon and me talking about possibly doing additional studio work on some songs, which they would have misinterpreted as 2 albums.....very strange....Anyway Jon and I found our live performance in Aspen very inspired, really good and it was recorded in studio like conditions in this beautiful small Opera House in Aspen with great acoustics, so this was really the best choice for both of us.Dec 10, 2014 11:53pm
APB Kickstarter content
I am a great fan of yours and Jon Andersons, and I am very excited to hear that you are doing a project together!!
My question is this: The kickstarter campaign promised three seperate things: a studio album, a live album, and a live DVD. But there seems to be a lot of noise coming from fans saying there is confusion about this.
Can you clarify for us, once and for all, that we are getting a studio album plus a live CD and DVD?
Thank you so much!
MaxDec 8, 2014 10:38pm
That young band
BMB is correct! Great band! Superb rendition of this soulful JLP tune. I'm glad to see the young musicians into JLP! and other jazz and fusion.Dec 6, 2014 8:35am